I am not an operator nor am I very smart. string(0) "" string(7) "firearm" Riding inside is a POF-USA Key-Lock AR-15 bolt carrier. ["ID"]=> How to get the most out of my Rogue? : r/longrange - Reddit Ordered a POF Rogue pistol in March, got it in August - took it to AR15 Barrels to install the dictator adjustable gas block, he also removed picatinny off the top, bottom front and cut the hand guard flush. The bolt carrier on the Revolution (CMR), Revolution DI, and Rogue, requires a longer stroke in order to clear the longer .308 cartridges and/or . POF-USA recommends only using Magpul and Lancer magazines with the Rogue. ["post_password"]=> I had a ton of photos from that event. string(9) "Rogue SBR" string(0) "" Can the SCAR guys come find a way to take a giant crap in this thread like they do in ours?? ["guid"]=> <p>The Rogue features POF's E2 dual-extraction technology consists of four small channels cut into the walls of the chamber allowing a small amount of gas pressure to push against the neck of the spent case. string(0) "" Conditions were sunny and in the 90s with a bit of wind. ["post_password"]=> Tested: POF-USA Revolution Rifle - An Official Journal Of The NRA ["post_parent"]=> I like the design of the 716 more than the rogue. I originally was looking in to a revolution di, then I saw the rogue and thought that it fit the bill for what I am looking for at a better price point even if I had to upgrade the gas system. Or, you can just set it and forget it. This adds a massive amount of rigidity to the overall platform and is critical when vertical fore grips are being pulled on the upper assembly. new. This design helps reduce carrier tilt. POF ROGUE RFLE DI 16 11M RAIL 308 PBRN $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. This particular Rogue isnt as accurate as the Revolution I previously tested, but I really like it. Review: POF-USA Revolution | An Official Journal Of The NRA Despite how light it is, I found it to be smooth shooting and easy to control for a 7.62x51mm NATO. ["pinged"]=> I will be using a surpressor on it, and I was thinking a primary arms glx acss raptor for the optic. ["ping_status"]=> string(19) "2022-12-28 14:30:32" It doesnt seem to make much sense, as AR-15s are too small to be chambered in .308 Win. POF Rogue Fail - YouTube ["post_date_gmt"]=> string(0) "" Now, POF-USA is back and they have reduced the weight to an ultralight 5.9 pounds with their new .308 Win Rogue. Patriot Ordnance Factory 01662 Rogue Direct Impingement 308 Win,7.62x51mm NATO 16.50' 20+1 Black Anodized 6 Position MFT Stock. ["post_title"]=> Lauren Witt, Interdependence Public Relations, David M. Fortier, James Tarr and Michelle Hamilton. What makes it stand out though is simply its length. I'm running the OSS HD-7.62Ti and couldn't be happier as it functions the same with the can on or off (so it may work really well with the Rogue and it's also POF's preferred suppressor). I will need to figure out the gas system once I have the can. ["post_status"]=> It's lighter than my 14.5" 5.56 AR. .more .more We reimagined. int(0) string(19) "2021-01-04 08:42:44" Even so, I was impressed by just how light and handy the Rogue is straight out of the box. I'd personally spend a bit more on the Revolution DI over the Rogue, no experience with the Sig but I've never been a fan and it's about two pounds heavier and physically larger overall. Better still, their new Rogue is less expensive too! It would be easy to carry over hill and dale, fast handling and quick to the shoulder while delivering a traditional .30 caliber punch. When a cartridge is fired they allow a small amount of gas pressure to flow backward and push on the shoulder of the spent casing. POF-USA Rogue 16.5 AR is the Lightest 7.62mm - DefenseReview.com POF Rogue .308 Reviews - Texas Hunting Forum Has anyone got experiences or advice, +/- they'd share? string(0) "" string(19) "2022-01-03 12:40:34" string(6) "closed" Been shooting flawlessly. string(0) "" 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=114229" This prevents carrier tilt and premature wear of the buffer tube. I've run around 500 rds. B&T USA 16-inch SPC9 Carbine: New for 2022. I have seen the bad reviews and that is honestly the biggest reason to consider the sig. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The most accurate load was Federals 185-grain Juggernaut which consistently put three out of five rounds into one inch and averaged two inches at 2,436 fps. Upgraded features that POF incorporates into this part include a roller cam pin instead of the more traditional rectangular cam pin, reducing friction and stress on the part, and a stainless-steel gas key dovetailed into the carrier to provide added rigidity and to minimize carrier tilt. ["post_content_filtered"]=> Back in 2012 I bought 2 POF rifles. ["filter"]=> string(9) "rogue-sbr" string(3) "raw" Made from 6061-T6 aluminum with a laser etched POF-USA logo, the quick disconnect sling swivel receiver extension plate is compatible with both mil-spec and commercial carbine receiver extensions. Despite its light weight, the Rogue proved very comfortable to shoot from the bench. The AR-15 is inherently smaller and handier than an AR-10. POF-USA Revolution Accuracy - YouTube The stock is comfortable and the buttpad provides a lot of surface area and doesnt slip around. One distinctive feature is the stainless steel gas carrier key is dovetailed into the carrier for added strength. string(0) "" JavaScript is disabled. ["post_date_gmt"]=> A 5.9-pound AR-15 rifle chambered in .308 Winchester? I used Magpul magazines and the rifle ran without issue. It's also a 16" rifle-length gas system. Am I locked into the dictator because of some proprietary specs or can I use the .750 slr agb that I have in spare parts? I asked POF if the Rogue twist rate would be 1-8 for .308, That is correct, the ideal grain weight range for that will be 155gr to 180gr.. ["guid"]=> ["menu_order"]=> string(6) "closed" string(7) "firearm" In addition Blacks Hills Ammunition also launched a 6mm ARC round and a 6.5 PRC. The new olive drab finish gives that old school military feel. So the consensus is that this thing should be great with 168 and 175 SMKs? While our test sample did turn out to weigh a bit more than the sub-6-lb. This is a solid option for most shooters. string(17) "Renegade Plus SBR" Next, I moved to shooting prone at a steel silhouette 280 yards away. My 16" Rogue is everything I always wanted from a semi 308, after going through the many heavy, hard to scope, and inaccurate options out there. ["post_type"]=> Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF) Rogue .308 Rifle - 16.5" - Rainier Arms Well how much does it take to get a good rifle? It's the second-most accurate load I've tried so far (1st place is Hornady 168gr Amax). The Revolution intrigued me as it is an AR-15-size platform, but chambered in .308 Win. ["post_type"]=> The Rogue sports POF-USAs single-stage drop-in trigger, which is designed to break at 4.5 pounds. ["post_type"]=> I'll just ditto everything IndianaBoy said. ["post_password"]=> Founded by Frank . One of our local gun stores has a few in stock for Christmas. . Great pistol and ran very reliably. Complete modularity achieved by the Renegade Rail System. Its my go-to for hog hunting. string(0) "" ["comment_status"]=> string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=130663" ["post_author"]=> This is important as heat is the enemy of auto-loading firearms. ["post_password"]=> ["post_modified"]=> ["post_modified"]=> The rifle is eminently fun to shoot and I chewed through 20-round magazines without issue. ["post_parent"]=> string(17) "renegade-plus-sbr" string(6) "closed" ["post_type"]=> ["post_author"]=> The new Cerakote finishes bump POF variants up to eight different color options. Surrounding the barrel is POF-USAs lightweight Renegade M-LOK handguard. Thanks Guys; I picked one up today. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128147" string(19) "2022-07-27 14:47:10" int(0) ["post_name"]=> ["comment_status"]=> int(128149) I understand the appeal of being . The .308 POF Revolution has the same receiver dimensions as a 5.56/.223 AR-15. string(0) "" ["to_ping"]=> Switching over to 7075 aluminum forgings rather than its predecessors machined billet receivers, while likewise doing away with the forward assist, also greatly decreased the amount of machining necessary to manufacture the Rogue, a major reason why the new rifle costs $800 less than the Revolution DI. ["comment_status"]=> David Fortier gets a chance to shoot the HK MP7 PDW at drivetanks.com. To be blunt, all three of these are boat anchors in comparison to the 5.9-pound Rogue. ["post_date"]=> The AR pistol features many 5.56-dimension parts such as the charging handle, bolt carrier, cam pin, buffer, heat sink barrel nut and handguard. It certainly held its own if compared to your average FAL, G3, CETME, M14, BM59, M1A and the like. I'd like to have one. I had to send it back to POF for a new barrel because the accuracy was horrible. I really like the adjustable gas block they use so consider just going with the Rev if you are for sure running suppressed. rogue-sbrobject(WP_Post)#7946 (24) { Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. They need to offer it in a 6.5 Creedmoor. } The firearm's numerous. You have my interest POF particularly at $1500 street price. ["post_parent"]=> Having shot comparable systems, there are very few reasons I can see anyone choosing 308 over 6.5 Grendel. ["menu_order"]=> ["ID"]=> Operation is traditional direct impingement, which is what I prefer. Both have been accurate as well as reliableat least with the Hornady ELDxs and Nosler Accubonds I normally use. So, this design isnt an AR-10, nor is it a small frame design like the Colt 901 which others copied years later. new. ["post_title"]=> All Rights Reserved. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Pop the included 20-round Magpul magazine into the rifle and you have an honest to God .30 caliber battle rifle. Have they been reliable? The ADM UIC-10A chambered in .308 Winchester provides a compact platform for long range precision shooting. An adjustable gas block and heavy buffer mostly fixes the reliability issues. ["menu_order"]=> } According to POF, the Rogue twist rate is designed for higher weight bullets so that may . The buffer detent now doubles as a lock that inhibits the buffer tube from rotating and becoming loose under adverse conditions. Check out the April 2022 American Rifleman review of our Rogue .308 Rifle. ["post_content"]=> I sent it back for them to look at it and they opened up the gas port slightly - What I noticed with with Dictator is that many of the positions had no effect. Realistically you'll have about a 300 difference between the two after you put a better trigger in the sig. While I don't have a POF, I do have Stuff from Knights,LMT and FN, and I think the POF look pretty good, especially in regards to how much they weigh. Threaded into the rear of the lower receiver is an aluminum anti-tilt receiver extension. string(17) "Revolution PD SBR" So, I experimented with different buffers. . The magazine well is noticeably flared for fast reloads. ["menu_order"]=> string(1) "0" Put a quick 60 rounds through her, mixed Prvi ball and Federal 150 gr. It will do MOA with match ammo. Specs (16-inch variant, via Ruger) Barrel Length: 16.1 inches Overall Length: 34-to-37.25 inches depending on stock position Length of pull: 11-to-14.25 inches Height: 7.2 inches from grip bottom. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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["post_name"]=> A great deal of engineering went into making an AR-15 capable of firing the 7.62x51mm NATO.. string(0) "" While POF advertises this skeletonized trigger to have a non-adjustable pull weight of 4 lbs., 8 ozs., our test sample was a bit lighter than that, with 10 measured pulls averaging right at4 lbs. ["post_content_filtered"]=> The Rogue comes with a stainless steal 1-8" twist barrel. string(19) "2023-01-09 16:27:30" Brandon explains how his company has streamlined the suppressor buying process. Patrick Sweeney shows us his PCC Competition SIG Sauer MPX. Wrong! I wouldnt mind selling a couple of DPMS LR308s and get one POF. Due to its very light weight the Rogue is very quick handling. int(0) Brown POF Rogue with a UBR. My new hunting setup. : r/AR10 - Reddit I'll be shooting it with a can. string(7) "publish" So, why not have your cake and eat it too? POF 308 Winchester Semi-Auto Rifles - Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore Use the weight savings as an opportunity to add one. ["post_author"]=> You simply cannot go wrong with any of these rifles." SIG Sauer 716i TREAD Specs Caliber: .308 Win. ["guid"]=> string(0) "" ["post_parent"]=> int(0) string(0) "" string(0) "" ["post_name"]=> JavaScript is disabled. The result is a sub 6 pound .308 rifle packed with proprietary and patented innovations. ["guid"]=> ["post_date_gmt"]=> ["post_content_filtered"]=> string(0) "" ["post_title"]=> $1,974.00 Add to Cart Add to Wish List Add to Compare Skip to the end of the images gallery A better brake helps the shoot ability. #10. ["to_ping"]=> The AR-15/M16 has been around since the mid-1960s, with various improvements added to make it more reliable. I've got to admit the Revolution/Rogue has me interested again. However, POF-USA does offer their Dictator adjustable gas block as an option on the Rogue. string(19) "2022-05-09 09:01:02" string(0) "" The Criteron barrels ADM uses blew me away. The Rogues weight loss relative to the Revolution DIs 6-lb., 13-oz., heft was accomplished primarily through three ways: by thinning out the upper and lower receivers in non-critical areas, by using a slimmer contour of barrel and by including a shorter, 11.5"-long Renegade handguard. It's better now. string(4) "3120" ["post_type"]=> string(0) "" string(19) "2022-12-28 22:24:32" ["post_date"]=> Now, POF-USA is back and they have reduced the weight to an ultralight 5.9 pounds with their new .308 Win Rogue. (collapsed), 38 in. I'm considering getting a Revolution; I like the idea of ambi controls and the adjustable gas block for suppressor use. This allows you to tailor the rifle to certain loads, or to turn the gas pressure down for use with a sound suppressor. The weight factor being the primary reason I was drawn to the platform due to the lengthy stalking we can get into. string(19) "2022-12-28 14:22:26" string(4) "3120" string(7) "firearm" Here it is below my 16" 6.5 Grendel for scale, plenty of neg reviews on the rogue so buyer beware. I also tried a DPM Systems Technologies buffer. The nut surrounds the chamber and throat area providing 17 times more heat dissipation than a standard Mil-Spec piece. I did try three other brands of metal magazines but experienced occasional misfeeds so stopped using them. Tuning the gas system can reduce felt recoil and make for a smoother operating rifle. ["post_content"]=> POF makes their adjustable gas blockneed to figure out which version on this rifle. ["post_status"]=> ["post_parent"]=> ["ping_status"]=> I'm sure there are some on the Rogue. ["post_modified_gmt"]=> And, that's not ALL, Monty. A new addition to the Honey Badger line is a 115 grain 10 mm round. That weight number is awesome. The bolt and barrel extension are the same overall size of the M16 bolt and barrel extension, but geometry modified to accept the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge. ["to_ping"]=> ["post_excerpt"]=> string(6) "closed" ["filter"]=> Got a 16" Revolution this Feb, and it has been reliable out of the box. Not sure how it will feel to shoot at less than 6 lbs. POF-USAs patented E2 dual-extraction technology consists of four small channels cut into the walls of the chamber allowing a small amount of gas pressure to push against the neck of the spent case. awaiting my cgs hyperion then determining if a gas block is needed for my rogueif so I'm trying a SLR first since it's much lighter than the pof brand. ["to_ping"]=> *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. string(0) "" I plan to put a DA FH on it so I can mount a Sandman-K for times we need cans to shoot. There is no way, unless someone else knows of one, to get a replacement barrel to have on hand. The Rogue carries very well due to both its short overall length and light weight. I absolutely love a short-stroke AR. The bolt though is a proprietary piece to fit the larger .308 Win case head, and the firing pin is a longer non-standard piece as well. I'm happy with my DPMS GIIs but I agree, small frames are the future of AR10s. POF Rogue pistol?? | Sniper's Hide Forum While these intermediate cartridges are good, they are simply out-muscled by full-power rifle cartridges like the .308 Win, 6.5mm Creedmoor and 6mm Creedmoor. This free upgrade will be installed in all Rogue models, including the 12.5" barrel pistol and 16.5" barrel carbine. Oldest M2 Browning .50-Caliber MG Still in Service? int(128150) string(6) "closed" ["menu_order"]=> POF-USAs Revolution really caught my attention, but I refrained from buying one. string(1) "0" ["post_modified_gmt"]=> ["to_ping"]=> POF is top notch and the managed to cram a 308 in an AR15 platform. This slim design is approximately 11 inches in length and features M-LOK mounting slots on three sides. A tungsten buffer makes a big difference in felt recoil IMO. What rifle would you recommend? ["post_date"]=> I have been buying more factory loaded 7.62NATO with its price converging with m193. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. It now groups 1.5-3" with 147gr crap and 3/4" with factory FGGM 168's. . ["comment_status"]=> Labradar, digital scale, Super 1050, Lee turret, the works. The result is a 7 lb pound 6.5 Creedmoor rifle . string(0) "" SIG Sauer 716i TREAD: 2020 Reader's Choice for 'Best AR-10 Rifle' Each iteration of POFs Revolution has thoroughly impressed us, and despite some of the lines bells and whistles having been removed from the Rogue, the most important ones are still present. } Dr. Dabbs tells us all about the weapons used in the his personal favorite war movie, Kelly's Heroes. Such a combination would make for a light and handy, yet hard-hitting hunting or tactical rifle. I grabbed one as well but haven't shot it yet. Affixing the barrel to the upper is an oversize barrel nut designed to act as a heat sink, dissipating heat far more efficiently than the standard mil-spec part. string(4) "3120" According to a recent Federal Emergency Management Agency report, fewer people are "prepping" today compared to previous years. ["menu_order"]=> The upper assembly with a free-floating monolithic handguard slides on and interfaces. string(19) "2021-01-04 16:42:44" ["post_modified_gmt"]=> The gas key is secured with a staked screw and dove tailed into the carrier for an extremely rigid design. Like the Revolution models before it, the Rogue also utilizes the companys E2 dual-extraction system, whereby four shallow grooves cut into the neck of the chamber vent ignition gases rearward to push against the cases shoulder, helping to break the seal and facilitating reliable extraction. While this expedient does limit the rifles versatility a bit, it should really only be a major consideration for frequent users of a suppressor. ["guid"]=> Take into account the radiation properties of aluminum compared to traditional steel and you have 17 times more heat dissipation than a standard AR. I had a Rev in 308 pistol configuration. string(6) "closed" string(17) "revolution-pd-sbr" At three inches long it completely encompasses the chamber and throat area of the barrel where expanding gas temperatures peak. The POF-USA quick disconnect sling swivel receiver extension plate features a single anti-rotational QD sling swivel attachment that keeps the operator focused on the target and not on untangling themselves from their sling.
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